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Who's more powerful in central asia right now: Russia or Chyna?

Seems like Russia but why?
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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: I understand and wish to continue

Seems like Russia but why?

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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: US Embassy In Jerusalem, Under Budg,Ahead of Sched

Russia still has an extensive intelligence network in place in central asian countries, leftover from the Soviet KGB secret police. large ethnic russian populations in the central asian republics mean that Russian intel agents can blend in, and they have a pool of ethnic Russians to recruit from.

hell, there are even people in these central asian republics, mostly ethnic russians, who are nostalgic and long for the feeling of a KGB boot on their necks once again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978397&forum_id=2#36062849)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: backspace (loves you just the way you are)

russia has greater influence, but china is arguably more "powerful" as russian power, previously propped on an overheated raw resource export-focused economy, wanes globally

the central asian dictatorships are more familiar with russia from regularly doing business with it over the last several decades + russians propping them up. there's a long standing symbiotic relationship that exists between russia and the regimes of regions that are strategically vital for russian interests

china has more potential in the region, supporters of the status quo are right to fear the kinds of disruption that the chinese might cause if they start going for power-plays in the region

probably less important but still relevant is the cultural affinity that nations like kazakhstan and azerbaijan share with russia (or certain russian oblasts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978397&forum_id=2#36062865)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 7:00 PM
Author: ARE Reptile

Kazakhstan, Armenia, Belarus, Tajisktan, and Kyrgyzstan are 100% married to Moscow if for no other reason than Russian troops on their soil can topple their governments. Kazakhstan has no formal Russian bases but Kazakh air defense is entirely integrated with Russian. Their Air Force collects its pay from Moscow. The SAMs are Russian operated.

Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan are China's. They hate Russia. Russia would happily kill every Uzbek and Turkmen. China is welcome to them. Their governments are hilarious.

Azerbaijan is more a client state of Erdogans than Russia's or China's.

Georgia is basically a wholly failed state and belongs to America to the extent its exists at all as a nation state.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978397&forum_id=2#36064688)



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Date: May 16th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: backspace (loves you just the way you are)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978397&forum_id=2#36064705)